Coffee Lake i5 NUC Review (NUC8i5BEK / NUC8i5BEH)
Ok, last week I was looking at the i3 Bean Canyon NUC and now it’s time to do the same for the i5 model. The model I have under review here is the NUC8i5BEK that’s powered by a Coffee Lake CPU, which is the last 14 nm CPU Intel is producing before moving onwards to 10 nm manufacturing process. The model I have here is the compact version without a slot for a 2.5″ drive. I won’t write a separate NUC8i5BEH review as the only difference to this model is the larger case that has a bit more space for the 2.5″ drive. The same mainboard and CPU is used for both models.
Features
- Intel i5-8259U CPU (Coffee Lake), quad-core with hyperthreading, up to 3.8 GHz
- Integrated Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655 GPU, up to 1.05 GHz, 128 MB eDRAM
- RAM: 2x DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM, 1.2 volt, 32 GB max.
- SSD: 1x 22×80 (22×42 also supported) M.2 SSD slots for SATA or NVMe SSD
- HDMI 2.0a
- port, 4k support with HDR
- USB Type-C port that provides USB 3.1 Gen2 (10 Gbps), Thunderbolt 3 and DisplayPort 1.2 capabilities
- 4 USB 3.1 Type-A (the normal one) ports (2 front, 2 rear)
- Intel gigabit Ethernet Adapter
- Intel Wireless-AC 9560 WiFi adapter with Bluetooth 5.0
- 3.5 mm front audio jack for stereo + microphone
- Consumer infrared receiver
- Dual microphone array
- Micro SDXC card reader
- Dimensions: 117 mm x 112 mm x 51 mm (4.6″ x 4.4″ x 2.0″)
- 90W power adapter
Full technical product specifications are available as PDF.
Unboxing
The Coffee Lake NUC is delivered as a barebones unit. This means there’s no operating system, memory or an SSD drive installed. You’ll need to buy them separately and install yourself or buy from a vendor that does it for you. It’s not that difficult to install the components yourself though. You will need to bring a DDR4 SODIMM memory module or actually ideally two of them for dual-channel operation. Furthermore you’ll need some form of storage. The NUC8i5BEH model has a slot for a 2.5″ SATA drive, whereas the more compact NUC8i5BEK model does not. Both models have an M.2 slot that can be used with NVMe or SATA SSD drives. On NUC8i5BEH you can even install both an M.2 and a SATA drive simultaneously. Since the mainboard is the same on the NUC, the NUC8i5BEK also has the connectors for the SATA drive, but there’s absolutely no space in the case for one.
Disclaimer: the picture above is actually taken from my i3 NUC review, but the box contents are identical for i5. You’ll find a 90-watt power brick, power cable, a VESA mounting plate to mount the NUC behind your TV or monitor, some screws and instruction brochures and advertisement material.
I really like how compact the K model is. In the above model you can see the difference between the H and the K models. There’s not much in the front panel: HDD LED, two USB ports (the yellow one is charging capable), headphone/headset jack and the power button. The two small holes are for the dual microphone array. You don’t see it, but there’s also an infrared receiver in the front panel in case you want to control your NUC with a traditional infrared remote control. That’s handy for a HTPC.
On the left side of the NUC there’s a micro SD card reader and a hole for a Kensington lock if you want to keep someone from slipping the NUC to their pocket while no-one’s watching. The right side is more plain with only a plain air intake grille there.
Despite being smaller than the NUC8i5BEH model, the NUC8i5BEK has exactly the same connectors in the back panel. There’s a DC power jack, a HDMI 2.0a connector, Gigabit Ethernet port, two USB 3.1 type A ports and a single type C port that can be used for Thunderbolt 3, DisplayPort and USB 3.1 connectivity.
Building It
The installation of RAM and the SSD drive into the NUC is simple.
You’ll need to unscrew the 4 screws on the bottom plate and pull it out. You’ll immediately see the mainboard in front of you. Click the memory modules in place first. Unscrew the small screw from the M.2 slot and insert the SSD drive into the M.2 slot before replacing the M.2 slot screw again (the screw is the one on the upper left side of the picture here – little bit left of the “970”). Nothing more to do here, so you can close the bottom cover and fasten the screws. There’s a thermal pad on the bottom cover to distribute the heat that the SSD drive generates and if you have an SSD drive that has a larger heat sink one of the screws will be a more difficult to fasten. Maybe it’s even a good idea to not fasten the screw fully in order to avoid excessive force being exerted on the SSD. If you use an SSD such as the Samsung 970 EVO seen here and what our NUC Guru – Build a NUC tool recommends, there’s not going to be any trouble.
Mainboard and cooling
Disclaimer: The following chapter and the pictures are from my i3 review. The i5 looks exactly the same so I was feeling a bit lazy and did not photograph it again.
Normally you don’t need to detach the mainboard from the case but I wanted to do so, as I wanted to see the updated cooling solution on the other side of the mainboard.
As you can see, on the other side there’s a much larger diameter fan (80 mm in this NUC) than previously was used on the Core NUCs. This is good news because large fans can move more air without spinning so fast. This in turn means less noise and noise is what some might remember the previous generation Kaby Lake NUCs from.
I detached the fan to find the copper heat pipe under the fan.
And finally you’ll find the CPU under the heat pipe. There’s quite a generous amount of cooling paste applied between the CPU and the heat pipe. A bit too much for my liking even, but seems to work ok though.
Finally, if you look close enough you can see the MegaChips MCDP2800 LSPCon chip that converts the internal DisplayPort 1.2 signal into HDMI 2.0a signal. I know this will be a disappointment for some as Intel had some problems with the LSPCon chips a couple of years ago and they did get some bad rep out there. The LSPCon and the GPU in NUC8i5BEH/NUC8i5BEK support HDR. The firmware version of the LSPCon was 1.73.
BIOS
The BIOS in the Coffee Lake NUCs is the Visual BIOS that hasn’t changed much over the years when it comes to the user interface. You can use your mouse and keyboard to move around. All your basic options are present, but don’t expect a host of overclocking possibilities being offered here. BIOS version 0048 was used for this review.
It’s worth pointing out that the consumer infrared receiver is disabled in the BIOS by default. The driver installation in Windows will fail unless you enable it.
Again: Thank You very much for this great review!
Thanks again for your review. Very curious about the fifa18 benchmarks. Already have my nuc8i3 and 970 Evo, but still waiting for my ram…
Another solid review and much appreciated! Will you be posting a review of the i7 version? If so, when do you expect that to be done?
Much appreciated review! I find the performance with relation to power consumption very interesting. Especially when comparing to the i3 version, where the i5 perform more than twice the perfromance. I suppose the cinebench score of 779p is with power consumption equal the prime95 of 74W, i.e. with the higher power limit? What is the steady-state performance of the i5 version when consuming around 50W, which is also equal to the i3 version during the same load?
So if you’re looking to use the NUC primarily as an emulation machine, you can just go with the i3-version? Seeing how must emulators are not optimized for or don’t support a multi-core architecture.
Btw, have you heard anything about a possible passive, fanless case for these new NUCs?
Hi,
i think it will take some time until Akasa/??? comes up with a fanless solution for the NUC8. Maybe the fantasitc Cirrus 7 nimbini 2.5 is a solution for you https://www.cirrus7.com/mini-desktop/cirrus7-nimbini-v2-5-media-edition.html. I will finish my project https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f89/diy-cooling-head-intel-nuc-1211312.html this/next month. Take a look,if you’re interested.
cu,
omnium
Cirrus 7 looks very interesting, but also very overpriced.
In case of i7 version you need to pay extra 328€ for that case and 4GB RAM.
They need to reconsider prices and sell that case separately.
Akasa case for 7 Gen NUC cost ~100€
Ok, it is very niche product and because they made first passive case for 8 Gen it can cost more, so ~150€ would be reasonable, but 328€ sound like joke for that case +4GB RAM.
With an i3 and the prices here in Germany (NUC8i3 ~ 260€, 4GB RAM ~ 30€), the bare case costs about 210€ and I find that more than appropriate.
FYI:Fanless cirrus7 nimbini v2.5 cools better than original NUC8i7BEH
https://www.cirrus7.com/blog/cirrus7-nimbini-v2.5/
I’m speaking about i7 version and 328€ for case + 4GB RAM is ridiculous.
Also cirrus7 shop claims BT 4.2, but normal NUC have BT 5.0, I hope it is a mistype.
As usual, a great review. I bought my Skylake i5 NUC 2.5 years ago after reading your review of that model, and I still read your blog entries, just in case I decide to upgrade my little box.
I have a request, and I hope is not a weird one: as the CPU has 4 physical and 8 logical cores, could you disable hyperthreading, perform some tests and compare them to the “normal” (with HT enabled)? I’m mainly curious about temperaturas and power consumption.
Many thanks in advance.
Here’s NUC8i5BEK Geekbench 3 results with HT enabled/disabled: http://browser.geekbench.com/geekbench3/compare/8696390?baseline=8705551
Cinebench multi-core result was 575 with HT disabled. Graphics related tests (Cinebench OpenGL, 3DMark etc) show only a minor drop as the GPU is the likely bottleneck there. When running applications that handle multiple cores, the power consumption and fan speed seem identical. For example when running Prime95 there’s no difference in power consumption nor fan noise. I suppose that is because the CPU core frequency gets adjusted as high as possible before a certain power consumption (read: heat generation) level is reached. If you disable HT, there might be less load on the core, but that pushes the CPU core frequency a bit higher so the power consumption becomes identical.
Sorry for the very late reply. I just bought a new NUC 8i5H. The SOCs used in the brand new NUC 10 sports plain UHD GPU, and this is a big letdown for me. The 8th NUCs still are at reasonable prices, so I prefer this older generation.
It’s a know fact! But a careless buyer might think the “last” (10th) gen is the best one! Well, in the GPU department is FAR from it! https://www.reddit.com/r/intelnuc/comments/foxpjp/nuc_8_pro_vs_nuc_10_performance/
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28289/Intel-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10
Intel 25.20.100.6373 driver.
This driver does not match the NUC8 with Iris™ Plus Graphics 655.
I get an error message ‘The system does not meet the minimum requirements to install the software’ if try to install it on a NUC8i5BEK
https://downloadmirror.intel.com/28289/eng/ReadMe.txt
“Operating System(s):
Microsoft Windows* 10-64 – Fall Creators Update
Microsoft Windows* 10-64 – April 2018 Update
Microsoft Windows* 10-64 – October 2018 Update”
Are you using Win10 version older than 1709?
The driver only installs on Windows 10 1709, 1803 or 1809.
1703 and earlier versions of Windows 10 are no longer supported with this 25.20.100.6xxx driver branch.
https://ark.intel.com/products/135935/Intel-Core-i5-8259U-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3-80-GHz-#tab-blade-1-7
Intel ARK also says the 25.20.100.6373 driver is compatible for the 8259U CPU in the NUC.
I use 1809. Please, let’s talk about this review and not about a new driver. Thank you.
How about the included HDMI-CEC capabilities? Can the NUC automatically turn on a connected TV when cold booting? Or is this feature only available in sleep states?
It turns my TV on (when cold booting), but turning off is another thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt…
I have a Samsung KS7000 TV
Thanks for the feedback. Does it also switch the HDMI input to the one the NUC is connected to?
Yes, you can choose the HDMI input in the BIOS of the NUC. So if you connect it to your TVs HDMI2 you should set HDMI2 in BIOS. Or you might be left wondering why the TV always goes to HDMI1 when you start the PC…
Great blog. Keep it coming! Looking to buy a NUC so this blog really aids my choices!
Great review as always, thank you.
If you find the time and means, I would be very interested in a performance review update for this machine (or the i3) with an external graphics card plugged in via the thunderbolt port (if these machine are compatible with such a setup of course…)
I ended up buying the i5BEK from Amazon US as it received a little price drop recently to $369. I was planning to wait for the Black Friday sales but the temptation was too great :)
Ordered yesterday and should receive tomorrow (US -> Japan, impressed with Amazon logistics). However I will buy the SSD and RAM locally as those parts may have a higher chance of issues. I’ll probably go with the popular Samsung 970 Evo 250GB NVMe. Not sure about the RAM but will get 4GBx2 for dual-channel.
Thank you for the reviews, they really helped me a lot!
the new NUC mounts a microSDXC reader with UHS-I support: what if I insert a microsd with UHS-II support?
Wonder how people feel about the Lenovo ThinkCenter M720SFF. With a coupon, i5-8400, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVME SSD, & Win10 for ~ $600USD. I get that it’s a bigger than the NUC (but a has a lot more ports), but for similar configuration (if you need WinOS), it’s about $100 cheaper.
I DON’T recommend! Noisy as hell at high CPU/GPU load! https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/ThinkCentre-M920-Tiny-Intelligent-Cooling-Engine-ICE-annoying-INCONSTANT-speed/m-p/5028519
Also, the NUC 8 Intel processor comes with a better GPU!!! (IRIS 655!)
Do you know if there is any noise and cooling differences between the BEH and BEK versions? (with and without a 2.5″ drive)? the NUC8i5BEK (no 2.5″ drive) should, in theory have better cooling as the fan is not blowing directly into the 2.5″ metal cage.
I have some older 2.5″ SSDs and I am wondering if it is even worth considering buying the NUC8i5BEH or if it is better to get the smaller NUC8i5BEK and just sell my SSDs on ebay.
Thanks in advance everyone !
What do you think, why is there no NUC8i7BEK? In my theory, the cooling is better on the H models.
My gut feeling is that the BEH models have better cooling. I don’t understand your comment regarding the fan blowing into the 2.5″ cage. The fan is on the other side of the mainboard vs. the drive cage. I don’t think it makes a difference here…
Anyone with this or the i7 can tell me how many fps they get in world of warcraft Thank you
Could you by any chance be convinced to make a video where you can hear the fan noise at different load levels? :-)
Hi. I asked a question regarding USB C and Power Delivery (PD) in another article before. Additionally I read in an article of the current issue if the german magazine c’t (computer technology) that the USB C is capable to deliver up to 15 Watt. Now: As I understand USB C can deliver power in both directions and up to 100 Watt. Can the NUC be powered by a monitor? Or vice versa: According to the c’t article the NUC should be capable to power a monitor with up to 15 Watt. Maybe someone hat the possibility to test that?
The NUC cannot be powered via its USB Type-C connector. I just tested using my laptop’s USB Type-C charger, but the NUC doesn’t show any signs of life.
Guys, who can tell me about NUC8i7BEH –
Can i raise CPU frequency manually in bios?
I want to disable function “turbo boost” and raise manually base frequncy from 2.7mhz to 3.2mhz – it is possible?
It would be great – if anyone make a screenshot of the tab “Performance” in bios!
Hi, there’s one in my NUC8i7BEH review: https://nucblog.net/2018/11/coffee-lake-i7-nuc-review-nuc8i7beh/
I see they have limited overclocking. Really bad news.
By the way – I could not find performance tests – where would be disabled – “turbo bust”, “real-time performance tuning” and “Hyper-threading” functions.
Hello, I am looking to buy a small pc for Office mail internet and banking. Is a NUC like this fast enough to do al these tasks without having to wait a minute or so to open up like a big file on the internet?
I want it to be fast like a normal desktop would be or like a fast laptop.
As I do not understand those tests and benchmarks just asking here.
Thank you for the answer.
Great blog btw
Hi, it certainly is. It would be about as fast as a high-end laptop and certainly more than fast enough for mail, internet, office applications etc.
Hi,
I just want to know if the i5 version is comparable to a Hades Canyon i7 8705G (NUC8I&HNK) performance, specifically with cpu raw power not the iGPU (655 vs RX Vega). If the performance is similar, then this might be more economical than to spend 800 USD on that particular NUC. I have tried to install an GTX 1050 to its pcie and it’s performance is almost the same as the RX Vega GL.
I can tell by the benchmark results that the i7 NUC comes pretty close to an i5-8400 desktop cpu in multicore performance. Single Core performance is worse though.
But, it should be enough for a gtx 1050 or even a 1070ti.
Great article, thanks.
what I’ve learned, that some distributors like the german “Alternate” have listed the models NUC8i5BEK2 and NUC8i5BEH2 (for example here: https://www.alternate.de/html/product/1477109), but neither the distributor or Intel itself have more Information about it and the differences to the regular NUC8i5BEK/NUC8i5BEH models.
Does anybody know more about those 2 models?
BEH2 is with EU power plug, BEH3 with UK plug.
Hi! I’m from Italy so, please, excuse my terrible english :-(
I’d like to buy this i5 NUC as download station (torrent, etc) and multimedia (4k, etc). Could it be fine for a continuous use (24/7)?
Thanks in advance!!
I got an older nuc which runs for almost 2 years 24/7. It still works perfectly fine. Keep the Bios, Firmware, Drivers up-to-date and it will be fine.
Thanks for the great review. I noticed in the bios there was no cpu temperature but something called VR temperature. What is this VR temperature? Is it the same as cpu temperature?
Hi, thank you for this review. Currenty I use my Skylake i3 Nuc as a Server with 8+ VMs. The new i5 nuc would be a perfect upgrade.
The Skylake i3 nuc is most of the time totally silent. Does anyone know how the 8th gen i5 compares to it?
Addition: Both old and new will be the H version.
Hi,
I bought a NUC8i5BEH after reading your review. I know there are passive NUC-cases one can buy. Still it would be nice to see somebody to do a DIY passiv cooling of something like the NUC8i5BEH.
I have dozens of huge heat sinks that can easily deal with the maximum Watt-output the NUC delivers. It’s only a question of how do you mount it to something like the NUC? Maybe you got an idea?
It would be nice not needing to take the motherboard out of the original NUC case but somehow remove the top and fan and mount the heat sink directly on top of the CPU.
Alternatively one could take out the motherboard and attach it upside down with the naked CPU on the heat sink (the weight of the heat sink may crush the CPU if you place the heat sink on top)
What do you think?
Hi,
Is it possible to swap the blower fan with a Noctua (if ever needed)?
Many thanks – great review btw!
Will there be HLG support on the HDMI for this Nuc?
Would this work in this NUC?
I could replace my old Synology Diskstation and do lots more with the NUC.
https://www.delock.de/produkt/62850/merkmale.html
I am thinking about Akasa X8 case and external 3,5″ drives with SATA Raid 1.
Plus internal 2,5″ SSD.
My Synology uses 17 watts power which is way to much, also it is rather noisy.
I’ve tried two different NVMe cards (Crucial and Samsung) in two different NUC8i5BEK’s and while they show up under devices they do not appear in the boot order nor can anything see them. As a result I’m not able to load an OS. What gives? SATA is set to AHCI and the BIOS was upgraded to ver x.0071.
Hey, just got a nuc8i5beh. It constantly keeps spinning up the fan, even tough I have se it to silent and it sits in windows 10. Anyone has similar experience? I’m suspecting the thermal paste might be dry or poorly installed.
I had that problem with my LENOVO m920 (i7). Will return it and swap it for this NUC (8gen) because of the SFF and BIGGER fan. And let’s not forget the better GPU!!! https://www.reddit.com/r/intelnuc/comments/foxpjp/nuc_8_pro_vs_nuc_10_performance/
I hope i will not have these problems with the NUC.
The spinning of the fan is “inconstant”? I get that on the LENOVO… goes up and down every second… https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/ThinkCentre-M920-Tiny-Intelligent-Cooling-Engine-ICE-annoying-INCONSTANT-speed/m-p/5028519
I am now completely puzzled about moving from LENOVO m920 i7 (terrible FAN noise in high load) after i’ve read this: https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-NUCs/NUC8i7BEH-high-fan-noise/td-p/644343
Just found out there is a LINE of PRO 8 gen PRO BOARDS – that sell with cases that have expansion capabilities! (different that the 8 gen boards, with different intel 8 gen processors, much more efficient!!!) https://www.intel.com.br/content/www/br/pt/products/docs/boards-kits/nuc/nuc8-pro.html
The downside is the GPU… only HD 630 on those models.
**bleep**… technology is HELL!!!
INTEL NUC 8 gen
Intel® Core™ i5-8259U Processor https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/135935/intel-core-i5-8259u-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-80-ghz.html
6M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz
Processor Base Frequency 2.30 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.80 GHz
TDP 28 W
Configurable TDP-down 20 W
INTEL NUC PRO 8 gen: Intel® Core™ i5-8365U Processor https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/193555/intel-core-i5-8365u-processor-6m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html
6M Cache, up to 4.10 GHz
Processor Base Frequency 1.60 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.10 GHz
TDP 15 W
Configurable TDP-up 25 W
Configurable TDP-down 10 W
INTEL NUC 10 gen: Intel® Core™ i5-10210U Processor https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/195436/intel-core-i5-10210u-processor-6m-cache-up-to-4-20-ghz.html
6M Cache, up to 4.20 GHz
Processor Base Frequency 1.60 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.20 GHz
TDP 15 W
Configurable TDP-up 25 W
Configurable TDP-down 10 W
So, the nuc8i5beh died within a month during compiling on gentoo linux, had to use warranty, this worked exceptionally well, the new one doesnt have the weird fan spinning issue either. i guess the first one was somewhat defective from the start.
Do you know if the CPU fan are interchangeable between these two models? I’m looking for a fan for the NUC8i5BEK but only can find one for the NUC8i5BEH and wondering if it will work in the NUC8i5BEK
There is one thing that boggles my mind, I have the short BEK one and it has a sata port. Why? Nothing would fit. Is it just because they wanted to save $ doing the same board for BEK and BEH?
Most likely the reason, yes.
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