Coffee Lake i5 NUC Review (NUC8i5BEK / NUC8i5BEH)
Performance and Benchmarks
Henri from Terastore, the company that borrowed me the NUC for this review, had preinstalled Windows 10 on the NUC before borrowing it for me, so I didn’t have to do that this time, however, as seen on the i3 review there are no issues during the installation of Windows 10 on the NUC. The graphics driver version 25.20.100.6326 and BIOS version 0048 were used for all the following benchmarks. The system was equipped with a 2×4 GB DDR4-2400 RAM modules (Price not available on Amazon) and a Samsung 970 EVO 250 GB M.2 NVMe SSD.
Benchmarks
3DMark
3DMark is a popular benchmarking suite that benchmarks video and gaming performance of the computer.
In the Cloud Gate test we see significant increase over the i3 model that itself showed pretty respectable performance in these tests when comparing to the previous generation of NUCs. In the Sky Diver and Fire Strike tests there are only much smaller differences between the i3 and the i5 NUCs (around 10 percent). Both NUCs have the same Iris Plus 655 GPU, so it’s understandable that the results are similar.
Cinebench R15
Cinebench runs 3 separate benchmarks and gives us figures that are comparable. First a simple 3D car chase that measures mainly the GPU (OpenGL) performance. The result is in frames per second. Second there’s a rendering of 3D model with all cores. This stresses purely the CPU. Finally there’s another rendering of the same model, this time using just a single CPU core.
The OpenGL test that stresses mainly the GPU is a similar story again: the results are a bit better on the i5 vs. the i3, but only by approximately 10%.
The raw CPU power advantage of the i5 model becomes apparent in the CPU tests. The single core result is almost identical, but the multi-core test results is 100% better. This makes me think that the i3 and the i5 are really very similar CPUs the only difference being the number of cores – the i5 has double the number of them.
Geekbench 3
The Geekbench 3 result supports that logic. The single core result of 4154 is only a little bit better (probably due to 0.2 GHz higher max frequency), but the multi-core test (result 15509) is where the difference is again about 100% better.
For those interested, the Geekbench 4 results for the NUC8i5BEK were 4885/16912.
Passmark CPU test
The Passmark test is often used to compare the CPU performance. The score for PassMark CPU performance test was 11289. Here’s a link to the full results.
Overclocking
Using the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU) you can alter (among other things) the power limits of the CPU package. All the benchmarks above have been taken using the default settings. The default settings will limit the power to a certain rate. At that rate the CPU heats up to 80 degrees Celsius, so there’s no thermal throttling. At that setting the NUC eats approximately 50 watts of power. By increasing the power limit by 20 watts I’m able to make the NUC consume 70 watts of power and retain a higher clock rate. However, the CPU will heat up to 100 degrees Celsius before the thermal throttling kicks in. The possibility to use XTU to tune the CPU performance is probably interesting in the cases where you’re able to provide better cooling than the stock fan assembly does. In the standard case I would not like to yank it up from its default setting as I much prefer a cool PC over a bit faster but noisy one.
Thoughts on Performance
The four cores in this NUC perform each about on the same level as they do on the Coffee Lake i3 NUCs. There’s just two more of them. So in theory you should be able to see twice as much performance when using applications that can spread their load nicely over multiple cores. Of course this is not the case for many applications and then again, if you want to do some gaming the GPU is actually the bottleneck. The GPU is exactly the same as in the Coffee Lake i3 NUCs and in the Coffee Lake i7 NUC (ok, clocked a bit higher on i7). In some GPU intensive tasks the advantage was only about 10% for the i5 vs. the i3.
It’s also worth pointing out that this i5 NUC is about on par with the Skull Canyon NUC (NUC6i7KYK) that was Intel’s first gaming NUC.
If you’re interested in how this NUC does in a couple of games, I wrote a separate article on that topic.
Again: Thank You very much for this great review!
Thanks again for your review. Very curious about the fifa18 benchmarks. Already have my nuc8i3 and 970 Evo, but still waiting for my ram…
Another solid review and much appreciated! Will you be posting a review of the i7 version? If so, when do you expect that to be done?
Much appreciated review! I find the performance with relation to power consumption very interesting. Especially when comparing to the i3 version, where the i5 perform more than twice the perfromance. I suppose the cinebench score of 779p is with power consumption equal the prime95 of 74W, i.e. with the higher power limit? What is the steady-state performance of the i5 version when consuming around 50W, which is also equal to the i3 version during the same load?
So if you’re looking to use the NUC primarily as an emulation machine, you can just go with the i3-version? Seeing how must emulators are not optimized for or don’t support a multi-core architecture.
Btw, have you heard anything about a possible passive, fanless case for these new NUCs?
Hi,
i think it will take some time until Akasa/??? comes up with a fanless solution for the NUC8. Maybe the fantasitc Cirrus 7 nimbini 2.5 is a solution for you https://www.cirrus7.com/mini-desktop/cirrus7-nimbini-v2-5-media-edition.html. I will finish my project https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f89/diy-cooling-head-intel-nuc-1211312.html this/next month. Take a look,if you’re interested.
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omnium
Cirrus 7 looks very interesting, but also very overpriced.
In case of i7 version you need to pay extra 328€ for that case and 4GB RAM.
They need to reconsider prices and sell that case separately.
Akasa case for 7 Gen NUC cost ~100€
Ok, it is very niche product and because they made first passive case for 8 Gen it can cost more, so ~150€ would be reasonable, but 328€ sound like joke for that case +4GB RAM.
With an i3 and the prices here in Germany (NUC8i3 ~ 260€, 4GB RAM ~ 30€), the bare case costs about 210€ and I find that more than appropriate.
FYI:Fanless cirrus7 nimbini v2.5 cools better than original NUC8i7BEH
https://www.cirrus7.com/blog/cirrus7-nimbini-v2.5/
I’m speaking about i7 version and 328€ for case + 4GB RAM is ridiculous.
Also cirrus7 shop claims BT 4.2, but normal NUC have BT 5.0, I hope it is a mistype.
As usual, a great review. I bought my Skylake i5 NUC 2.5 years ago after reading your review of that model, and I still read your blog entries, just in case I decide to upgrade my little box.
I have a request, and I hope is not a weird one: as the CPU has 4 physical and 8 logical cores, could you disable hyperthreading, perform some tests and compare them to the “normal” (with HT enabled)? I’m mainly curious about temperaturas and power consumption.
Many thanks in advance.
Here’s NUC8i5BEK Geekbench 3 results with HT enabled/disabled: http://browser.geekbench.com/geekbench3/compare/8696390?baseline=8705551
Cinebench multi-core result was 575 with HT disabled. Graphics related tests (Cinebench OpenGL, 3DMark etc) show only a minor drop as the GPU is the likely bottleneck there. When running applications that handle multiple cores, the power consumption and fan speed seem identical. For example when running Prime95 there’s no difference in power consumption nor fan noise. I suppose that is because the CPU core frequency gets adjusted as high as possible before a certain power consumption (read: heat generation) level is reached. If you disable HT, there might be less load on the core, but that pushes the CPU core frequency a bit higher so the power consumption becomes identical.
Sorry for the very late reply. I just bought a new NUC 8i5H. The SOCs used in the brand new NUC 10 sports plain UHD GPU, and this is a big letdown for me. The 8th NUCs still are at reasonable prices, so I prefer this older generation.
It’s a know fact! But a careless buyer might think the “last” (10th) gen is the best one! Well, in the GPU department is FAR from it! https://www.reddit.com/r/intelnuc/comments/foxpjp/nuc_8_pro_vs_nuc_10_performance/
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28289/Intel-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10
Intel 25.20.100.6373 driver.
This driver does not match the NUC8 with Iris™ Plus Graphics 655.
I get an error message ‘The system does not meet the minimum requirements to install the software’ if try to install it on a NUC8i5BEK
https://downloadmirror.intel.com/28289/eng/ReadMe.txt
“Operating System(s):
Microsoft Windows* 10-64 – Fall Creators Update
Microsoft Windows* 10-64 – April 2018 Update
Microsoft Windows* 10-64 – October 2018 Update”
Are you using Win10 version older than 1709?
The driver only installs on Windows 10 1709, 1803 or 1809.
1703 and earlier versions of Windows 10 are no longer supported with this 25.20.100.6xxx driver branch.
https://ark.intel.com/products/135935/Intel-Core-i5-8259U-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3-80-GHz-#tab-blade-1-7
Intel ARK also says the 25.20.100.6373 driver is compatible for the 8259U CPU in the NUC.
I use 1809. Please, let’s talk about this review and not about a new driver. Thank you.
How about the included HDMI-CEC capabilities? Can the NUC automatically turn on a connected TV when cold booting? Or is this feature only available in sleep states?
It turns my TV on (when cold booting), but turning off is another thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt…
I have a Samsung KS7000 TV
Thanks for the feedback. Does it also switch the HDMI input to the one the NUC is connected to?
Yes, you can choose the HDMI input in the BIOS of the NUC. So if you connect it to your TVs HDMI2 you should set HDMI2 in BIOS. Or you might be left wondering why the TV always goes to HDMI1 when you start the PC…
Great blog. Keep it coming! Looking to buy a NUC so this blog really aids my choices!
Great review as always, thank you.
If you find the time and means, I would be very interested in a performance review update for this machine (or the i3) with an external graphics card plugged in via the thunderbolt port (if these machine are compatible with such a setup of course…)
I ended up buying the i5BEK from Amazon US as it received a little price drop recently to $369. I was planning to wait for the Black Friday sales but the temptation was too great :)
Ordered yesterday and should receive tomorrow (US -> Japan, impressed with Amazon logistics). However I will buy the SSD and RAM locally as those parts may have a higher chance of issues. I’ll probably go with the popular Samsung 970 Evo 250GB NVMe. Not sure about the RAM but will get 4GBx2 for dual-channel.
Thank you for the reviews, they really helped me a lot!
the new NUC mounts a microSDXC reader with UHS-I support: what if I insert a microsd with UHS-II support?
Wonder how people feel about the Lenovo ThinkCenter M720SFF. With a coupon, i5-8400, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVME SSD, & Win10 for ~ $600USD. I get that it’s a bigger than the NUC (but a has a lot more ports), but for similar configuration (if you need WinOS), it’s about $100 cheaper.
I DON’T recommend! Noisy as hell at high CPU/GPU load! https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/ThinkCentre-M920-Tiny-Intelligent-Cooling-Engine-ICE-annoying-INCONSTANT-speed/m-p/5028519
Also, the NUC 8 Intel processor comes with a better GPU!!! (IRIS 655!)
Do you know if there is any noise and cooling differences between the BEH and BEK versions? (with and without a 2.5″ drive)? the NUC8i5BEK (no 2.5″ drive) should, in theory have better cooling as the fan is not blowing directly into the 2.5″ metal cage.
I have some older 2.5″ SSDs and I am wondering if it is even worth considering buying the NUC8i5BEH or if it is better to get the smaller NUC8i5BEK and just sell my SSDs on ebay.
Thanks in advance everyone !
What do you think, why is there no NUC8i7BEK? In my theory, the cooling is better on the H models.
My gut feeling is that the BEH models have better cooling. I don’t understand your comment regarding the fan blowing into the 2.5″ cage. The fan is on the other side of the mainboard vs. the drive cage. I don’t think it makes a difference here…
Anyone with this or the i7 can tell me how many fps they get in world of warcraft Thank you
Could you by any chance be convinced to make a video where you can hear the fan noise at different load levels? :-)
Hi. I asked a question regarding USB C and Power Delivery (PD) in another article before. Additionally I read in an article of the current issue if the german magazine c’t (computer technology) that the USB C is capable to deliver up to 15 Watt. Now: As I understand USB C can deliver power in both directions and up to 100 Watt. Can the NUC be powered by a monitor? Or vice versa: According to the c’t article the NUC should be capable to power a monitor with up to 15 Watt. Maybe someone hat the possibility to test that?
The NUC cannot be powered via its USB Type-C connector. I just tested using my laptop’s USB Type-C charger, but the NUC doesn’t show any signs of life.
Guys, who can tell me about NUC8i7BEH –
Can i raise CPU frequency manually in bios?
I want to disable function “turbo boost” and raise manually base frequncy from 2.7mhz to 3.2mhz – it is possible?
It would be great – if anyone make a screenshot of the tab “Performance” in bios!
Hi, there’s one in my NUC8i7BEH review: https://nucblog.net/2018/11/coffee-lake-i7-nuc-review-nuc8i7beh/
I see they have limited overclocking. Really bad news.
By the way – I could not find performance tests – where would be disabled – “turbo bust”, “real-time performance tuning” and “Hyper-threading” functions.
Hello, I am looking to buy a small pc for Office mail internet and banking. Is a NUC like this fast enough to do al these tasks without having to wait a minute or so to open up like a big file on the internet?
I want it to be fast like a normal desktop would be or like a fast laptop.
As I do not understand those tests and benchmarks just asking here.
Thank you for the answer.
Great blog btw
Hi, it certainly is. It would be about as fast as a high-end laptop and certainly more than fast enough for mail, internet, office applications etc.
Hi,
I just want to know if the i5 version is comparable to a Hades Canyon i7 8705G (NUC8I&HNK) performance, specifically with cpu raw power not the iGPU (655 vs RX Vega). If the performance is similar, then this might be more economical than to spend 800 USD on that particular NUC. I have tried to install an GTX 1050 to its pcie and it’s performance is almost the same as the RX Vega GL.
I can tell by the benchmark results that the i7 NUC comes pretty close to an i5-8400 desktop cpu in multicore performance. Single Core performance is worse though.
But, it should be enough for a gtx 1050 or even a 1070ti.
Great article, thanks.
what I’ve learned, that some distributors like the german “Alternate” have listed the models NUC8i5BEK2 and NUC8i5BEH2 (for example here: https://www.alternate.de/html/product/1477109), but neither the distributor or Intel itself have more Information about it and the differences to the regular NUC8i5BEK/NUC8i5BEH models.
Does anybody know more about those 2 models?
BEH2 is with EU power plug, BEH3 with UK plug.
Hi! I’m from Italy so, please, excuse my terrible english :-(
I’d like to buy this i5 NUC as download station (torrent, etc) and multimedia (4k, etc). Could it be fine for a continuous use (24/7)?
Thanks in advance!!
I got an older nuc which runs for almost 2 years 24/7. It still works perfectly fine. Keep the Bios, Firmware, Drivers up-to-date and it will be fine.
Thanks for the great review. I noticed in the bios there was no cpu temperature but something called VR temperature. What is this VR temperature? Is it the same as cpu temperature?
Hi, thank you for this review. Currenty I use my Skylake i3 Nuc as a Server with 8+ VMs. The new i5 nuc would be a perfect upgrade.
The Skylake i3 nuc is most of the time totally silent. Does anyone know how the 8th gen i5 compares to it?
Addition: Both old and new will be the H version.
Hi,
I bought a NUC8i5BEH after reading your review. I know there are passive NUC-cases one can buy. Still it would be nice to see somebody to do a DIY passiv cooling of something like the NUC8i5BEH.
I have dozens of huge heat sinks that can easily deal with the maximum Watt-output the NUC delivers. It’s only a question of how do you mount it to something like the NUC? Maybe you got an idea?
It would be nice not needing to take the motherboard out of the original NUC case but somehow remove the top and fan and mount the heat sink directly on top of the CPU.
Alternatively one could take out the motherboard and attach it upside down with the naked CPU on the heat sink (the weight of the heat sink may crush the CPU if you place the heat sink on top)
What do you think?
Hi,
Is it possible to swap the blower fan with a Noctua (if ever needed)?
Many thanks – great review btw!
Will there be HLG support on the HDMI for this Nuc?
Would this work in this NUC?
I could replace my old Synology Diskstation and do lots more with the NUC.
https://www.delock.de/produkt/62850/merkmale.html
I am thinking about Akasa X8 case and external 3,5″ drives with SATA Raid 1.
Plus internal 2,5″ SSD.
My Synology uses 17 watts power which is way to much, also it is rather noisy.
I’ve tried two different NVMe cards (Crucial and Samsung) in two different NUC8i5BEK’s and while they show up under devices they do not appear in the boot order nor can anything see them. As a result I’m not able to load an OS. What gives? SATA is set to AHCI and the BIOS was upgraded to ver x.0071.
Hey, just got a nuc8i5beh. It constantly keeps spinning up the fan, even tough I have se it to silent and it sits in windows 10. Anyone has similar experience? I’m suspecting the thermal paste might be dry or poorly installed.
I had that problem with my LENOVO m920 (i7). Will return it and swap it for this NUC (8gen) because of the SFF and BIGGER fan. And let’s not forget the better GPU!!! https://www.reddit.com/r/intelnuc/comments/foxpjp/nuc_8_pro_vs_nuc_10_performance/
I hope i will not have these problems with the NUC.
The spinning of the fan is “inconstant”? I get that on the LENOVO… goes up and down every second… https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/ThinkCentre-M920-Tiny-Intelligent-Cooling-Engine-ICE-annoying-INCONSTANT-speed/m-p/5028519
I am now completely puzzled about moving from LENOVO m920 i7 (terrible FAN noise in high load) after i’ve read this: https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-NUCs/NUC8i7BEH-high-fan-noise/td-p/644343
Just found out there is a LINE of PRO 8 gen PRO BOARDS – that sell with cases that have expansion capabilities! (different that the 8 gen boards, with different intel 8 gen processors, much more efficient!!!) https://www.intel.com.br/content/www/br/pt/products/docs/boards-kits/nuc/nuc8-pro.html
The downside is the GPU… only HD 630 on those models.
**bleep**… technology is HELL!!!
INTEL NUC 8 gen
Intel® Core™ i5-8259U Processor https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/135935/intel-core-i5-8259u-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-80-ghz.html
6M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz
Processor Base Frequency 2.30 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.80 GHz
TDP 28 W
Configurable TDP-down 20 W
INTEL NUC PRO 8 gen: Intel® Core™ i5-8365U Processor https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/193555/intel-core-i5-8365u-processor-6m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html
6M Cache, up to 4.10 GHz
Processor Base Frequency 1.60 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.10 GHz
TDP 15 W
Configurable TDP-up 25 W
Configurable TDP-down 10 W
INTEL NUC 10 gen: Intel® Core™ i5-10210U Processor https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/195436/intel-core-i5-10210u-processor-6m-cache-up-to-4-20-ghz.html
6M Cache, up to 4.20 GHz
Processor Base Frequency 1.60 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 4.20 GHz
TDP 15 W
Configurable TDP-up 25 W
Configurable TDP-down 10 W
So, the nuc8i5beh died within a month during compiling on gentoo linux, had to use warranty, this worked exceptionally well, the new one doesnt have the weird fan spinning issue either. i guess the first one was somewhat defective from the start.
Do you know if the CPU fan are interchangeable between these two models? I’m looking for a fan for the NUC8i5BEK but only can find one for the NUC8i5BEH and wondering if it will work in the NUC8i5BEK
There is one thing that boggles my mind, I have the short BEK one and it has a sata port. Why? Nothing would fit. Is it just because they wanted to save $ doing the same board for BEK and BEH?
Most likely the reason, yes.
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