ASRock’s AMD Ryzen NUC (4x4BOX-V1000M) Review

AMD Ryzen

As a long time Intel user I’m rather familiar with the Intel’s CPU hierarchy with the Celerons, Pentiums and Core CPUs. AMD has a rather large lineup of CPUs as well and Ryzen is just one of the products. And to top of it Ryzen is actually a marketing term that, in rough terms, corresponds to Intel’s Core CPUs. Coincidentally AMD has chosen to call their Ryzen CPU sub-families Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 in increasing order of performance. How thoughtful.

The Ryzen CPUs (and APUs if you want to get technical) are based on Zen microarchitecture. Zen was the first generation, Zen+ the second and Zen 2 is the latest microarchitecture. The Ryzen Embedded chips like the ones used in the ASRock 4X4BOX are also based on the first generation Zen microarchitecture and they were released in early 2018. Which leaves me wondering whether we could see a consumer-oriented AMD NUC-like PC with Zen 2 mobile CPU (such as Ryzen 5 3500U or Ryzen 7 3700U) anytime soon…

The Ryzen Embedded V1605B powered ASRock 4X4 BOX-V1000M costs $399 at NewEgg and the lower end 4X4 BOX-R1000V is about $100 cheaper.

Performance

Cinebench R15

The Cinebench R15 is quick benchmark utility based on Cinema 4 Suite. The multi-core test is done using all CPU cores and can benefit greatly of hyperthreading. It also has a simple OpenGL benchmark.

In the multi-core CPU benchmark the 4X4 BOX is trailing the i5 Bean Canyon NUC with a score of 671 and in the single-core benchmark the result of 141 is somewhat behind Bean Canyon as well.

In the OpenGL benchmark the 4X4 BOX trails previous NUCs by a significant margin and achieves a score of 53.69.

3DMark

In the 3DMark benchmark that tests gaming performance in various DirectX and CPU tests the tables are turned. The Ryzen V1605B powers the 4X4 BOX to a better result than any Bean Canyon NUC in both Sky Diver and Firestrike benchmarks. Only the Crimson Canyon NUC8i3CYSM with its Radeon RX 540 GPU manages to beat it in these tests. Then again in the Cloud Gate the 4X4 BOX beats the Crimson Canyon handily but the i7 Bean Canyon edges it.

Geekbench 3

Geekbench is another popular test for CPU performance. The ASRock V1000M is basically on par with the i5 Bean Canyon NUC here. Though even if the final scores are similar there are differencies in the individual tests. Study the detailed results and comparison at Geekbench site.

Geekbench 4 results were 3915 for single-core and 11603 for multi-core test.

Gaming

The Radeon GPU should suit casual gaming quite well. I tried my old and tested Dirt 3 again on this NUC as I do have material to compare this NUC to. In addition I ran the benchmark provided in the Shadow of the Tomb Raider which is a much more recent game.

Dirt 3

Dirt 3 is an older racing game but cranking up the detail level and the resolution still makes it possible to provide a proper challenge for the CPUs and GPUs found in NUC-sized PCs. It’s also nice to use a proper game for benchmarking instead of the synthetic benchmarks as that gives a true picture of the system performance in a certain application.

With my usual setup (1920×1080, high details, 60 Hz refresh rate, no vertical sync, 2xMSAA) Dirt 3 runs very well. The 4X4 BOX beats all Bean Canyon NUCs by a clear margin but trails the Crimson Canyon NUC again.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider

To get an idea how a more modern and demanding game would run on this mini PC I installed Shadow of the Tomb Raider trial from Steam. The trial version is convenient because it offers a benchmark that can be used to assess the performance of your PC with the game. Firing up the benchmark it became quickly apparent that there simply isn’t enough oomph to run this with the default settings (1920×1080, detail level high, TAA anti-aliasing). The average frame rate was 13. As this is the first system I test with Shadow of the Tomb Raider I don’t have anything to compare this to, but I don’t expect that any of the Bean Canyon NUCs would do better here.

In order to make the game playable I had to lower the resolution significantly (I tried 1024×600) and drop the detail level. At that point the game didn’t look that impressive anymore…

Power Consumption and Fan Noise

Time to hook up my trusty old power meter. I do use a consumer-grade simple EM240 power meter made by Brennenstuhl. There’s no guarantee that any of the readings are 100% accurate, but at least the figures should be comparable between units I’ve reviewed since the same device was used.

TaskPower
Stand-by4.0 W
Idle, Windows 10 desktop13.8 W
Watching a 4K video in Kodi, Windows 1026.3 W
CPU-Z stress test46.8 W
Shadow of the Tomb Raider gaming49.5 W
Watching a 4K video, LibreELEC 9.229.8 W
Idle, LibreELEC 9.2 main menu18.2 W

The power consumption figures are rather similar to the figures I measured for Bean Canyon i3 and i5 NUCs with the exception of idle and standby numbers that are significantly higher for the 4X4 BOX. Based on some research I’ve done the higher idle power consumption seems to be a feature of the first generation of Ryzen CPUs. The third generation Ryzen 3000 mobile CPUs apparently have improved significantly the idle power consumption even if still not matching Intel’s mobile CPUs.

What about the fan noise? Well, there’s quite some to be honest. Seeing the power consumption figures that match Bean Canyon NUC levels it’s not really a surprise considering that the fan is significantly smaller. I could compare the fan noise to a typical lower end non-metal laptop. My problem with the fan is that it kicks in very suddenly. While idling the fan is basically quiet and then suddenly it might boost up to full speed making significant noise. Of course the 4X4 BOX is an industrial model and intended for environments where things like fan noise might be less of a concern.

Keep reading

Move to the next page and read about HTPC capabilities, Linux support and Conclusions.

10 Responses

  1. Mounter says:

    Thanks to the review, but I would be more curious regarding some more in-depth HTPC capabilities, specially UHD / HDR playback (with possibly high bitrate videos) also when using MadVR. A run with some more sophisticated and MadVR compatible playback option like MPCHC, DSPlayer or Jriver on Windows.

    (Might need to check the “On a budget and need basic 4K UHD video processing:” section of this tutorial in the first post for the fitting setup: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-home-theater-computers/2364113-guide-building-4k-htpc-madvr.html ).

    What I’m afraid of in this case, that the max. 2400MHz RAM speed limitation would hold far back the IGP’s horses in this case… A more consumer version of this Box, with more headroom for the RAM clock would be much more desirable and less doubtful regarding.

    • Olli says:

      Thanks for the comment! I’ll have a go with MPC-HC and MadVR and let you know how it goes. At least initially the performance looked bad (sometimes it worked ok and sometimes it seemed like a slideshow of pictures). Also the fan starts to run at full speed when the GPU is stressed…

      • Mounter says:

        Thanks! Did you configure MadVR as stated in the linked tutorial for Vega IGP’s? Well, if you did, than it’s sounds like I’we expected and the RAM’s are too slow for this purpose yet. Let’s juts hope Asrock will bring a more flexible AMD APU NUC sometime, it would have the potential and also the market I guess. Intel wouldn’t get any near to the performance of AMD IGPs anytime soon as I see now.

  2. ed says:

    Thanks for the review! Glad to see some AMD CPUs in the NUC space.

    I have a bunch of AsRock motherboards, and they all perform flawlessly. The only knock I have against them is that the BIOS support usually stops after a year or two, unless it’s a popular product. Perhaps it’s a different story with their “industrial” line…

    I mention that because one thing Intel got right with their NUC line is the long-term product support. I just retired a functional five or six year old N2820 NUC that was still receiving BIOS updates this year (!)

    • Olli says:

      Thanks for the comment! Indeed, you’re right – Intel has been pretty good at providing updates even for older NUCs. I also have an ASRock mainboard on my desktop PCs that’s been solid since day 1. However, no BIOS updates for long time…

  3. 400$ for the V1000M? This is not an interesting offer IMHO. If you can live with a little more space used, the buying the ASRock DeskMini A300 + Ryzen 3400G + Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 will be a lot faster, whisper quiet and still reasonably small. For about 80 bucks LESS (!!!). And you can use fullsize DIMMs and faster memory as well – WiFi costs extra though (which I personally do not care about much).

    And next year, Zen 2 based AMD Renoir CPUs might be compatible with it and be even fast, we should see within two weeks or so what AMD announces at CES.

  4. su yen liu says:

    To buy a 4X4Box in Europe or other regions, there are ASRock Industrial disty in major of EU countries and you can check disty information for your region on ASRock Industrial website / Where to Buy page and contact the disty for your inquiry. Where to Buy page : https://www.asrockind.com/general/buy.asp

    Or leave ASRock Industrial an inquiry, they will have a disty contact you. https://event.asrockind.com/ipc.asp

    Hope this will help. thank you.

  5. Nick says:

    Thanks for the great review. I went with a DeskMini A300 + 200GE last year for a home automation build, and it works great, but if this were around I might have paid a premium to get it. As pointed out already, the A300 is cheaper and the CPU is upgradeable, but it’s not as small.

  6. ENOTTY says:

    Weird how this compares poorly to the Crimson Canyon NUC NUC8i3CYSM, but has a newer generation GPU.

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